US Vice President Mike Pence (R) and US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo (L) attend a press conference after a meeting with Turkish President, in Ankara, Turkey, on October 17, 2019. (Photo by Adem ALTAN / AFP) (Photo by ADEM ALTAN/AFP via Getty Images)

US Vice President Mike Pence (R) and US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo (L) attend a press conference after a meeting with Turkish President, in Ankara, Turkey, on October 17, 2019. (Photo by Adem ALTAN / AFP) (Photo by ADEM ALTAN/AFP via Getty Images)

Last week, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo lashed out at NPR’s Mary Louise Kelly after she pressed him on tough questions about Iran and Ukraine.

Pompeo abruptly ended the interview and, according to Kelly’s account, profanely confronted her.

President Trump praised Pompeo’s behavior. But many say the encounter reveals turmoil in the State Department and with U.S. diplomacy at large.

What’s the state of American diplomacy under Pompeo’s leadership?

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  • Lara Jakes Diplomatic correspondent, The New York Times @jakesNYT
  • Stephen Walt Professor of international affairs, Harvard Kennedy School @stephenWalt

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